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1 Fort Hood murders on Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:23 pm

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I'm sure by now y'all have heard about the murders at Fort Hood! I have to ask, how the hell did this happen at an army base! Surely there was a hint of something beforehand! I guess O'bama will find some way to make it look like it was the poor victims' fault! Surely these muslims weren't to blame! Your thoughts, anyone?

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2 Re: Fort Hood murders on Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:52 am

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Oh, I have lots of thoughts. Just waiting to hear more facts. Preliminary facts, though, seem to indicate this guy joined the US Army, but NEVER had any intention of going to war. Sounds a little strange to me.

I've seen people asking over and over "How did he paass a psych test"? He was a psychiatrist...HE CHEATED...he knew all the "right" answers we wanted to hear.

Ok, that's as far as I'm gonna go right now. I'm just very grateful that my friend and her husband, and their children are ok. Also, one of Boy Child's close friends is tehre, but was off base, and safe.

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3 Re: Fort Hood murders on Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:24 am

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I have some very strong and not politically correct feelings on Muslims in our country... Let's just say I hope none are working at facilities that are harboring our nation's secrets....... ex[zipped]

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4 Re: Fort Hood murders on Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:00 am

With this guy, there WERE warning signs, according to what I read on the Internet this morning.

I feel the same as Mikey. Inside myself, I want to give everyone a fair chance, and that we should be tolerant of anyone's religion.

But also inside myself, I many Muslims, or even Muslims as a whole, are dangerous to this country, and to the world, because, as they clearly state, they believe they have the mission to erradicate anyone who is not a Muslim.

Scary stuff. Especially when we have politically correct thinkers who would rather wait until something happens, than take steps to stop it before it can happen.

For instance, wearing all that clothing covering their face and body, so you can't see if someone is carrying a gun or bomb. Geesh. Some day someone is going to walk into a crowded shopping mall in the U.S. and suicide-bomb the place to bits.

Australia reportedly has taken steps to outlaw Islam. Me thinks that's a good thing.



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5 Re: Fort Hood murders on Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:53 am

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Imagine all of the families that have been affected by this one madman. I have not heard of any positive things about Muslims. They want to take over the world and if you don't believe like they do you are an infidel and to be put to the sword. 70 virgins? How does this sound like something God would say?

On another forum about fishing, a man is in charge of about 40 employees. One man is from Iraq and he was complaining that they "spoiling his wife". He sleeps on the bed and makes her sleep on the floor beside him. The maids were bringing her blankets and a pillow for the floor.


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6 Re: Fort Hood murders on Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:09 pm

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And they do honor killings on their own daughters if they turn to a different religion like Christianity or disrespect the family in any way. Nothing will stop these people from doing whatever they want to as they do not seem to have a fear of death as we do. They are to be feared and they are coming here for a reason and that reason is not good for this country. People need to wake up and keep a watchful eye on everything that goes on around them and report anything strange that they see if we are to have any kind of power over this movement of peoples. This is not the end of terror............it is just the beginning. All hell is going to break loose if we don't take a stand. We have to get rid of all these mamby pamby politicians who think that we can win them over with our peace and love attitude and get some strong warrior get er done types in office and show the world we still have a backbone!


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7 Re: Fort Hood murders on Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:16 am

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I'll go so far as to say I agree with all of you. Muslims in general also seem to have lots of patience. So much so, that they can be a sleeper for any number of years before "suddenly" becoming active. Then everyone is surprised. For all we know, that could be the case with this guy at Ft Hood. How many years was he in the US Army? I think it was 6 years? No one can tell me he just woke up one day and said, "oh, I don't like the war...I'll go blow some people up". He was brewing for awhile.

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8 Re: Fort Hood murders on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:34 pm

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I also agree with all of you. Muslims are a ticking time bomb. They do not come to America to embrace the American way of life. They come to instill their way of life on you. Their country is run with bloodshed and terror. I don't trust them. Maybe their are some honest ones in the bunch but on the whole they all seem to be cut from the same cloth.

9 Re: Fort Hood murders on Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:04 pm

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I just got this today in one of my newsletters: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5AA3OJ20091111


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10 Re: Fort Hood murders on Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:33 pm

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With all the evidence that we now have I am very disappointed the authorities are not treating this as a terrorist attack. Knowing of his radical Islamic views let change the weapons of his choice from handguns to a bomb wrapped around his waist. Had he been a homicide bomber, would that now be considered a terrorist action?

They are now wondering why this guy occasionally used a neighbor's computer even though he had his own computer. Where did all his money go? He made 90K a year and lived like a monk.

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11 Re: Fort Hood murders on Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:58 pm

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I'm disappointed too but I'm not surprised..........actually there is not much that will surprise me anymore and that is really too bad. We live in one of the most liberal states here and it's really hard to keep on voting and never be on the winning side. A cop was recently just assassinated point blank by this thug who had it in for the cops. He tried to kill others also and blew up cop cars in the past in an attempt to kill. They are now trying to decide if they should evoke the death penalty on him..........good thing for him I'm not making that decision.


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12 Re: Fort Hood murders on Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:13 pm

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With all the evidence that we now have I am very disappointed the authorities are not treating this as a terrorist attack
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This administration doesn't acknowladge that there are terrorists. What do they call the war on terror now, Overseas Contignency Operaton??? If you talk about Islam or terrorists you are racist.


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13 Re: Fort Hood murders on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:02 pm

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Allen West on Fort Hood Massacre

November 7, 2009 in General, Guest Authors

Tags: Allen West, Attack, Fort Hood, Islam, Terror


The following is a statement released by Retired Lt. Col. Allen West:



This past Thursday 13 American Soldiers were killed and another 30 wounded at a horrific mass shooting at US Army installation, Ft Hood Texas. As I watched in horror and then anger I recalled my two years of final service in the Army as a Battalion Commander at Ft Hood, 2002-2004.

My wife and two daughters were stunned at the incident having lived on the post in family housing.

A military installation, whether it is Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine, or Coast Guard, is supposed to be a safe sanctuary for our Warriors and their families. It is intended to provide a home whereby our "Band of Brothers and Sisters" can find solace and bond beyond just the foxhole but as family units.

A military installation is supposed to be a place where our Warriors train for war, to serve and protect our Nation.

On Thursday, 5 November 2009 Ft Hood became a part of the battlefield in the war against Islamic totalitarianism and state sponsored terrorism.

There may be those who feel threatened by my words and would even recommend they not be uttered. To those individuals I say step aside because now is not the time for cowardice. Our Country has become so paralyzed by political correctness that we have allowed a vile and determined enemy to breach what should be the safest place in America, an Army post.

We have become so politically correct that our media is more concerned about the stress of the shooter, Major Nidal Malik Hasan. The misplaced benevolence intending to portray him as a victim is despicable. The fact that there are some who have now created an entire new classification called; "pre-virtual vicarious Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)" is unconscionable.

This is not a "man caused disaster". It is what it is, an Islamic jihadist attack.

We have seen this before in 2003 when a SGT Hasan of the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) threw hand grenades and opened fire into his Commanding Officer's tent in Kuwait. We have seen the foiled attempt of Albanian Muslims who sought to attack Ft Dix, NJ. Recently we saw a young convert to Islam named Carlos Bledsoe travel to Yemen, receive terrorist training, and return to gun down two US Soldiers at a Little Rock, Arkansas Army recruiting station. We thwarted another Islamic terrorist plot in North Carolina which had US Marine Corps Base, Quantico as a target.

What have we done with all these prevalent trends? Nothing.

What we see are recalcitrant leaders who are refusing to confront the issue, Islamic terrorist infiltration into America, and possibly further into our Armed Services. Instead we have a multiculturalism and diversity syndrome on steroids.

Major Hasan should have never been transferred to Ft Hood, matter of fact he should have been Chaptered from the Army. His previous statements, poor evaluation reports, and the fact that the FBI had him under investigation for jihadist website posting should have been proof positive.

However, what we have is a typical liberal approach to find a victim, not the 13 and 30 Soldiers and Civilian, but rather the poor shooter. A shooter who we are told was a great American, who loved the Army and serving his Nation and the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) stating that his actions had nothing to do with religious belief.

We know that Major Hasan deliberately planned this episode; he did give away his possessions. He stood atop a table in the confined space of the Soldier Readiness Center shouting "Allahu Akhbar", same chant as the 9-11 terrorists and those we fight against overseas in the Iraq and Afghanistan theaters of operation.

No one in leadership seems willing to sound the alarm for the American people; they are therefore complicit in any future attacks. Our Congress should suspend the insidious action to vote on a preposterous and unconstitutional healthcare bill and resolve the issue of "protecting the American people".

The recent incidents in Dearborn Michigan, Boston Massachusetts, Dallas Texas, and Chicago Illinois should bear witness to the fact that we have an Islamic terrorism issue in America. And don't have CAIR call me and try to issue a vanilla press statement; they are an illegitimate terrorist associated organization which should be disbanded.

We have Saudi Arabia funding close to 80% of the mosques in the United States, one right here in South Florida, Pompano Beach. Are we building churches and synagogues in Saudi Arabia? Are "Kaffirs" and "Infidels" allowed travel to Mecca?

So much for peaceful coexistence.

Saudi Arabia is sponsoring radical Imams who enter into our prisons and convert young men into a virulent Wahabbist ideologyÅ .one resulting in four individuals wanting to destroy synagogues in New York with plastic explosives. Thank God the explosives were dummy. They are sponsoring textbooks which present Islamic centric revisionist history in our schools.

We must recognize that there is an urgent need to separate the theo-political radical Islamic ideology out of our American society. We must begin to demand surveillance of suspected Imams and mosques that are spreading hate and preaching the overthrow of our Constitutional RepublicÅ Å that speech is not protected under First Amendment, it is sedition and if done by an American treason.

There should not be some 30 Islamic terrorist training camps in America that has nothing to do with First Amendment, Freedom of Religion. The Saudis are not our friends and any American political figure who believes such is delusional.

When tolerance becomes a one way street it certainly leads to cultural suicide. We are on that street. Liberals cannot be trusted to defend our Republic, because their sympathies obviously lie with their perceived victim, Major Nidal Malik Hasan.

I make no apologies for these words, and anyone angered by them, please, go to Ft Hood and look into the eyes of the real victims. The tragedy at Ft Hood Texas did not have to happen. Consider now the feelings of those there and on every military installation in the world. Consider the feelings of the Warriors deployed into combat zones who now are concerned that their loved ones at home are in a combat zone.

Ft Hood suffered an Islamic jihadist attack, stop the denial, and realize a simple point.

The reality of your enemy must become your own.

Steadfast and Loyal,

Lieutenant Colonel Allen B West (US Army, Ret)

http://foxienews.com/blog/?p=543


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14 Re: Fort Hood murders on Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:24 pm

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For several years I coordinated the hiring process for the police department. Management's final decisions on who to hire left me very disappointed. They often did not hire the most qualified. The selection process was supposed to be blind but management always manipulating the process to determine the race, gender and sexual orientation of applicants. This was done not to discriminate against them but rather to give them preference in the hiring process over others. Later in my career I networked with the Civil Service Department in the promotional process and saw the same behavior.

All this to say that I imagine the military, in pursuit of diversity, did the same thing with respect to recruiting Muslims. This is not to say the there are not qualified Muslims.....but they clearly hired and promoted an extremely unqualified Muslim just in order to get another widget in the diversity column....

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15 Re: Fort Hood murders on Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:59 am

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I agree 100% with LtCol West. I could not, no...would not, and have not said it so eloquently.

OLD SCHOOL teaching is what made the USA a great nation by defeating Evil. NEW SCHOOL teaching Evil to greatly defeat OUR nation.

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