Can We Say This Here?

Can we say this here?

Beware, George Carlin at his best. Only for the brave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34cBchox5TY

Yes, we can say pretty much anything on "The Dark Side." That' s what this particular part of the forum is about. No words are censored. I never want to see the N word used here and that is about the only word that I never want to see, even in a joke. But other than that, pretty much anything goes here. Those who don't want to see it can dodge this part of the forum.

I just hope Esther never finds this place

Why can't we use the N word? Again, it is a set of letters strung together to form a sound. The meaning you put to them is probably different than mine. A nigger to me growing up was only describing a person of dark skin. I don't know what you think it means. If I were to use it, I am only saying his skin is dark and not white. Can we use the H word here? What's a honkey? What about Beaner or any of the other slang words used to indicate a certain culture.
Why shouldn't I see this? I know about those words but choose to not use them, (most of the time)I like grammar, spelling, and the English language. But I do not understand why certain sets of 4 letters strung together are not socially acceptable. For instance "shit". Why is that not to be said in public but "manure" is OK. The same with intercourse. It's 4 letter counterpart "fuck" is a huge nono. And oddly, a word that is a verb, is often misused as an adjective. How can a verb describe anything?
Some of the sexual related 4 letter words are becoming a common part of our language but have taken on a negative conotation. I'm speaking of the word "suck". Why is this sexually related word used to describe something or someone who is lacking? If you were to hear a child use these words, why would we think it is bad or wrong, when we think nothing of using them. If it's wrong for a 4 year old then it is wrong for me.
Why do we use them anyway when we know they are unacceptable? We pick and choose the words to use from our mental dictionary all the time. Are we trying to seem street wise? Are we trying to get a laugh? Speaking of laughing at these words, what is so funny about someone using a 4 letter word?
Or maybe we want to sound tough? Well BIG DEAL, words are just that, a poof of air coming from our lungs and the tongue, mouth, and vocal chords putting shape to that puff of air. You choosing to use socially unacceptable words in public may be an effort to make yourself seem "big" or gutsey. If when you choose to use them, you have to look around to see if anybody is going to be offended, lets me know you are aware of what you are doing. I am not offended if you use these words. They don't taint who I am. But what it does for me is to taint my opinion of the user. In my opinion, these words coming out of your mouth or from your fintertips shows a lack of control, an effort to make me think you are brave, streetwise, and tough when you aren't. Well, a poof of air coming out of your mouth doesn't prove to me you are any of that.
How do you choose what words to use in front of which people? If you would not use them in front of a child, your grandmother/mother, your pastor/priest, the president of the US, or on a job interview, then why do you use them in front of me?
Personally I'm more offended when someone in an argument uses a putdown word or questions my intelligence.

Many years ago, there was a little Sunday School chorus and I can only remember one phrase from it. What you are, speaks so loud, that the world can't hear what you say. Think about it.

You're right, Esther, but some people are offended by certain words. Also certain words are off limits on certain forums. Two that come to mind are crap and shit. I can never remember which one is considered "offensive". To me, they're the same. I wouldn't use either one in front of a child or in a conversation with my pastor etc., but one is allowed on TV and the other isn't.

It's not what words you say, it's how you say them. If someone says to me "Don't YOU look good today" in a sarcastic tone of voice. They should just say "I think you look like crap/shit today" because that's what they are really saying. Again, it's not the words that you use but how you use them. Both of those sentences are intended as an insult and would hurt my feelings.

Anyway, this was just a video of a old but classic George Carlin comedy routine. Nothing more. I apologize for thinking that you would be offended by off color language and humor, Esther.

NOOooo!! I didn't mean I was offended at all. I had a pretty good idea what I was going to hear the moment I started the video. GC was pretty well known for his raunchiness. I am not shocked in the least at the content. Even then, so what if I was shocked/offended? You have the right to use the words you want to use and I, mine. Don't forget that at 67, I've been around the block a few times and probably have heard most of the potentially "offensive" words that are out there. Also, I have left 0ff any religious slant to what I said because just because a I am a Christian shouldn't make you change your vocabulary because I am here. I just had a thought about that, and would think that maybe people change their words out of respect for the person they are speaking to. I guess that is really nice for them to do. But I don't want to be the person who mandates how you form your speech. I don't want to be seen as a critical, controlling person. I was just throwing out some thoughts about how we speak, to get people to think about what motivates using coarse language or avoiding it. I certainly understand an expletive when you drop the freshly baked casserole and it smashes, sending tomato sauce all over the kitchen. What I don't understand is choosing to use coarse language when there are other words out there that work just as well. Pete came in as I was typing my first post on this thread. He's a master plumber and of course works with construction guys and they are known for their blue language. I have never heard my husband swear-----NEVER!! Unfortunately, he cannot say the same for me. He mentioned a guy he works with from time to time who uses the F word for every other word in his sentences. It's odd. Anyway, the other rambling thing was playing devil's advocate---stirring the pot---trying to get people to think. That's all.

I just realized you were appologizing for something different than I thought at first. LOL Anyway. Thank you for you appology. But it isn't surprising that you and others think that and I find it rather complimentary that you know what I personally stand for. But I wouldn't call you out for what you posted as I am not the one with the power here. I don't make the rules, thank goodness. I just happened to think, the forum that has a list of "bad" words, do they post the list somewhere or do they just yell at you if you use one? I just had another thought, (I'm getting tired with all this thinking)when there is a group of people, there's bound to be someone who will take offense at this word or that so it's to be expected that no matter what you say, somebody's gonna yelp.

I'm not a profane person and I don't like hearing profanity...although my carnal nature has let loose with a few choice words in the past life when I was a blue suit....

However, I have enjoyed Carlin, so I guess I don't mind profanity so much when intentionally done in humor. I've seen the "F" bomb e-mail where it is used in numerous instances as an adjective and that e-mail cracked me up.

Prior to coming to law enforcement I came from a rural community that was very white and I had a sheltered background. It was complete culture shock for me when I started my career working in a ghetto..... When I worked patrol my favorite beat was a predominantly black beat located just south of Compton, which at the time was heavily black and now mostly Hispanic. What I refer to as "low-class" Blacks routinely used the "N" word. They would use it in a friendly greeting to another black friend; "Hey nigger, wazz up?" Or they would use it in anger, "Get-cho M-Fing nigger ass out of my face!"

Some cops, regardless of their race, would frequently use the "N" word to describe these "low-life" blacks when talking with other cops. Yes, that includes black cops using the "n" word to refer to these people. If they used the word in public it would be time off.... As long as a significant portion of the black community continue to accept the use of the "n" word I don't think they have a leg to stand on when a non-black person uses the word.

A lot of well spoken posts here. I have not censored any words here. All I was saying is that we all need to respect each other and not offend anyone with racial slams which nobody has done. I'm proud of the intelligence shown by our posters here.

fishlipsmcgee wrote:Can we say this here?

Beware, George Carlin at his best. Only for the brave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34cBchox5TY

As a moderator, I know that you read this...

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Mikey wrote:I'm not a profane person and I don't like hearing profanity...although my carnal nature has let loose with a few choice words in the past life when I was a blue suit....

However, I have enjoyed Carlin, so I guess I don't mind profanity so much when intentionally done in humor. I've seen the "F" bomb e-mail where it is used in numerous instances as an adjective and that e-mail cracked me up.

Thank you Mike and Esther for understanding. "The Dark Side" is a section of this forum where dark humor, off colored jokes and profanity is allowed. If it offends anyone I ask them just not to click here because I promise you this area is an open field, anything goes as far as words and bad jokes go.

I trust that everyone here will still use good judgment and not say crass things like "We now have a nigger president" or post pornography. Other than that, anything goes. You can say any of the bad words here, tell nasty jokes and it stays here.

If anyone is offended by this, please dodge the Dark side. I just wanted to make a place where we are not censored but please do not slam an entire race for the actions of the few.

Nasty jokes are cool here as well as bad words, any and every. Just don't piss on anyone's boots and slam their race. Have fun.

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Yes, I read it Bullfrog. But it was a great excuse to post a classic George Carlin Video, eh?